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a few issues with the plugin

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3:50 pm
4 Mar 2008


Ana Luiza

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Hello,

I'm using build 237 here: http://www.inglesonline.com.br/forum

There's some strange (to me) stuff going on - please help!


- I checked Google Webmaster Central today and there are about 200 URLs listed as “not found”, all with the following format:

http://www.inglesonline.com.br/2006/12/29/forum 404
(Not found)
Help
Feb 19, 2008
http://www.inglesonline.com.br/2006/12/page/forum

I have no idea where these came from…


- When I first installed the plugin in 2007 I used the Portuguese language file.. It went well until one day I saw the forum was all back to English (without my doing anything) - should I re-install? Will I lose data?


Thank


4:30 pm
4 Mar 2008


Tee

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I have experienced that in the past with the same version, and it went away over time. Has your page slug for the forums changed at all? There are redirect plugins that you can use to make sure your users get to the page they are looking for, you may want to try one of those to avoid losing visitors.


I know 3.0 is out soon (can't wait!) but I've had a weird issue as well that I thought should be brought to the author's attention (in case it also affects 3.x). The 2.x version works wonderfully, except I may have messed something up when I tried to modify the actual Forums page. I just added some verbage that said “These will be upgraded within the next 2 weeks” since my current implementation is kind of ugly and I've gotten feedback saying so.


Since adding that text, my site theme resets to defaults every few hours. If you visit http://www.joyfuldigesting.com/ and see the default WordPress theme with the blue header background, that means it has reset again. This is a very, very odd bug. I have since deleted the text from my forums page, but it has happened once more since.


Is there a way I can prevent this from happening? Should I somehow recreate the page entirely and never try to add text anywhere?


Thanks very much!

5:21 pm
4 Mar 2008


Yellow Swordfish

Admin

Peterborough, England

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Ana Luiza said:

I'm using build 237 here: http://www.inglesonline.com.br/forum

There's some strange (to me) stuff going on - please help!


- I checked Google Webmaster Central today and there are about 200 URLs listed as “not found”


- When I first installed the plugin in 2007 I used the Portuguese language file.. It went well until one day I saw the forum was all back to English (without my doing anything) - should I re-install? Will I lose data?


Thank



I have no idea about the Google stuff. Maybe someone else can shed some light on that.

I hate to be brutal but in my experience if something works and then stops working it is because something has happened to it. if it is no longer using your language file then there has to be a reason. I assume that your language is still set correctly in your config.php file? And that the forum language file is installed in the languages folder?

5:27 pm
4 Mar 2008


Yellow Swordfish

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Peterborough, England

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Tee said:


I know 3.0 is out soon (can't wait!) but I've had a weird issue as well that I thought should be brought to the author's attention (in case it also affects 3.x). The 2.x version works wonderfully, except I may have messed something up when I tried to modify the actual Forums page. I just added some verbage that said “These will be upgraded within the next 2 weeks” since my current implementation is kind of ugly and I've gotten feedback saying so.


Since adding that text, my site theme resets to defaults every few hours. If you visit http://www.joyfuldigesting.com/ and see the default WordPress theme with the blue header background, that means it has reset again. This is a very, very odd bug. I have since deleted the text from my forums page, but it has happened once more since.



Are you saying you added this text to the actual page (as in Manage > Pages > Edit)? That is harmless enough and certanly - I believe I can say defintely - is not connected to loading the correct theme.

I have had this happen to me now and then (actually on my main site which does not host the forum) and have heard of it happening to others but to be honest I don't know why WP get's confused. Have you asked on the WP forums?

8:41 pm
4 Mar 2008


Tee

Guest

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Yes, that is the exact procedure I followed. And I agree, it seems so very far-fetched that simply adding text to a page would do that, but it seems consistent - modifying that page resets my theme to default within 2 hours. Makes NO sense to me, and I'm not blaming you of course - I think you've done an absolutely amazing job and I really look forward to the new version.


I will ask at WordPress as well. Thanks for your reply!

12:57 am
7 Mar 2008


Tee

Guest

6

FYI for anyone else experiencing the issue - The WordPress forums told me to scan my error logs, since themes reset to default if any error is encountered. I found 1 error from a plugin, disabled the plugin, and… the reset still occurs, but now less often.


So that's a good starting point for anyone else experiencing the issue… hope it helps!

8:22 am
7 Mar 2008


Yellow Swordfish

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Peterborough, England

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I rather suspect that this is a simplistic response to your question and certainly not 100% accurate. If I search my error logs I will find many instances where code failed for one reason or another - be it in core WP or in a plugin. These things happen. If the theme reset to default on every error then it would always be running the default. You also have to take into account php's ability to recover from an error which is not that good.

I could more easily believe that this happens when a problem is encountered with 'theme' code itself - that's far more likely to be the culprit.

9:49 pm
7 Mar 2008


Tee

Guest

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I am sure you know a LOT more about themes/plugins/WordPress than I do, and you make a valid point.


I hope it's not the theme - I've been afraid to customize it TOO much since I want to be able to update versions as they are released, but I have performed several minor customizations along the way. I wrote myself a note for each so I can re-customize a future version but I'm hoping to not have to do that too often.


In my case, the plugin that showed an error was the Simplified Admin Menus plugin (something like that). I disabled it, and the theme resets did slow down (2x in one day compared to 6x in the previous, with more traffic on my site). Then, someone else in the WordPress forum said that WP-Mobile plugin (for displaying to mobile users) was causing the theme reset problem for him. I went ahead and disabled that, and so far, no more theme resets.


Finally, another user chimed in and said it was probably that we didn't follow the install instructions for WP-Mobile, which is true in my case…


I posted all of this here in case another visitor experiences the same problems. Hope it helps, and thanks again for your reply!

9:57 pm
7 Mar 2008


Yellow Swordfish

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Peterborough, England

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If you have access to your error logs (and you should have - for example if your host uses cpanel you can get to them) then the next tiem it happens not the time and take a look in the logs. That should tell you what code was being run at the time it failed and where the failure happened.



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