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12:12 pm
22 Apr 2008
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RangeyRover
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All users getting this when trying to post a new topic.
There is text within the post.
Any ideas what might cause this?
Thank
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The first obvious question is - has this been the case since you first installed the forum?
If no then what else has changed because that will be the culprit.
If yes then take a look at the on-line help at the 'installation' section on plugin conflicts.
If you find the answer there then come back with which plugin it is
if you don't find the answer there then you'll need to deactivate your other plugins to find the conflict.
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12:28 pm
22 Apr 2008
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RangeyRover
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Actually this seems to be tinymce related, I have changed to quicktags and posts are now being accepted. Now I know It is a problem beyong my ken. Cos tinymce is a minefield. Great when it works, a pig when it doesn't
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12:34 pm
22 Apr 2008
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RangeyRover
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Andy,
Thanks for the lightning response.
The forum has been working great for about four months.
Only new plugin was optimise-db from your recomendation on here.
I ran optimise db on sunday, would that stop tinymce from sending?
Should I consider updating? Only reason not to was I have played a lot with the css.
Quite a lot of people seem happy with using old css on simple:pre
you can see the behaviour here, you can post as a guest with tinymce and it fails.\
Thanks
RR
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12:38 pm
22 Apr 2008
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RangeyRover
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Seems to be the optimise db plugin.
turned it off, now working.
Well done Andy for telepathic remote diagnosis…
Odd fault though
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Ok - that is weird though as I have both plugins working together with no problem. I assume it is the leatest Optimse DB version?
Ah - hang on… Optmise DB uses the protoype javascript library. We have seen problems where the version of prototype in use is an older version. Could this be the case?
Having said that though, Optimise DB shludnlt be loading prototpye on the front end of your blog but maybe something else is. You're not using the wp-lightbox plugin by any chance are you
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2:28 pm
22 Apr 2008
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RangeyRover
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I am using prototype.js and lightbox!
Beetles off to check if his lightbox is at the right version….
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2:34 pm
22 Apr 2008
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RangeyRover
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lightbox is at version 0.7, which is the latest. the author says that he is using compressed prototype.js
I am not bright enough to work out the version, when I open with notepad 2 it has no version indicator.
Should I find the latest compressed prototype and use that?
I'm happy with the solution of turning on optimise only when I need it, but nice to debug the fault properly
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I do not know the current situation but the author of wplightbox plugin was using, at ine time, a beta version of prototype which was not playing nicely with TinyMCE.
The simple fact is that they should NOT be supplying prototype at all as this comes bundled with WP and they shopuld be using that version (which solved the problem for previous users).
(You could say the same thing abut the forum and tinyMCE but the reason for that is trying to load the WP version is incredibly slow)
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5:10 pm
22 Apr 2008
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-Radio-
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an unfortunate fact of all plugins on wordpress is that every plugin is loaded every time, on every page.
Backend plugins are still loaded on the display pages, and display plugins are still loaded on the backend.
This is a general fault in Wordpress and has been documented several times in the forums there.
(sorry… should have said 'Feature'… *ugh*)
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This is true - they ARE all loaded but…. good authorship can limit what is actually executed. For example, the javascript and css files that are needed to run the forum are only loaded when the forum page is the target for display. Same with the admin files. Most half-decent plugin coders will do this to try and keep the 'damage' to a minimum.
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7:52 pm
22 Apr 2008
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Mr Papa
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can anyone say “enque”? not enough plugin authors use this feature to keep js and other stuff from running on every page… oh, and its on our future features list to try using the wp tinymce once again…
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8:29 pm
22 Apr 2008
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-Radio-
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I can SAY it… can the plugin author's DO it is the question… Present company aside, most plugins today rank in the low 3/10 - 5/10 on the clean code scale…
Even my own code is dirty as hell in the WP-Live-Chat plugin…
So Many Tweeks… so little brains…
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I can spell it as well 
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11:52 pm
22 Apr 2008
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Mr Papa
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I think your “Mr Papa” filter hacked it up on me…  
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