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5:57 am 13 Aug 2007
| Joseph
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Hello Andy,
Thanks for developing Simple Forum. It’s an impressive piece of work. I’m trying to get it working on a new site on my local server, with Wordpress 2.2.1. In this case the problem is that the "Save New Topic" button does nothing. The "Cancel" button works, though. So I can’t create topics.
I’ve read your responses to other posting problems. I disabled all other plugins, but the problem persists.
What do you suggest?
Joseph
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First step is to try it in more than one browser. let’s see if it browser specific or specific to your installation.
Then a question. Is the control disabled (greyed out) or enabled. If you are using the math spam option does it become enabled after you enter the number and move out of that field (which is how it should work)?
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11:17 am 13 Aug 2007
| Joseph
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Andy,
Checking the browser: I’m using Firefox, in which the Save box displays normally and changes background color on mouse-over. Switching the rendering engine to IE, the Save box is greyed out.
As for the math option, I’ve been using it (the default, I suppose) . Now: I’ve just switched off the Spam Detection Tools, and bingo, I can now save the topic.
Thanks. So, must I give up the spam tool, or is there some work around?
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It’s more a matter of it working for everyone else. I myself use Firefox almost exclusively and, you managed to post here with the ‘math’ box. So it has to be caused by some local factor on your server.
The usual culprit is some other Javascript put in place by another plugin but if you have weeded out that possibility then I am a bit stuck. if you give me a link to your forum so I can look at the source being generated can look to see if I can see anything obvious…
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12:46 pm 13 Aug 2007
| Joseph
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The site is offline, on a local development server. Once I put it online, I can let you know if the "math problem" persists.
For now I am happy to have the plugin working. Thanks for your help. Is it OK to contact you again in a couple weeks when the site is launched?
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Of course - sure. And good luck
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3:24 pm 6 Jan 2008
| Patrick
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Joseph said:
Andy,
Checking the browser: I’m using Firefox, in which the Save box displays normally and changes background color on mouse-over. Switching the rendering engine to IE, the Save box is greyed out.
As for the math option, I’ve been using it (the default, I suppose) . Now: I’ve just switched off the Spam Detection Tools, and bingo, I can now save the topic.
Thanks. So, must I give up the spam tool, or is there some work around?
Andy,
I have the same issue with the Math function not working. I am concerned about this as I have clean/up-to-date IE7 and firefox browsers. I also have WP 2.3.2. I have disabled ALL plugins, and this still does not work. I suspect there are others that have observed this issue, but never spoke up. In any case, when this works in one browser (IE) and not in Firefox it places a sliver of suspicion as to what else may not be functioning…
I debate the decision as to whether to go with Simple Forum or WP-Forum. Your support and functionality (especially from an administrative perspective) are incredible. But the issue still picks away at me.
Can you let me know your thoughts?
Thank you! - Patrick
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My thoughts? Well firstly I guess go with whatever plugin you feel most comfortable with.
As to the math spam field I ask what I asked Joseph that he never really answered: Does the ’save’ button become enabled after you have entered the math answer and cicked outside of the math field? If it does then all is working correctly. It works in all major browsers on both PC’s and Macs. if the Save button is not clickable on after entering and leaving the math field then it is a javascript problem.
If, like Joseph, you are basing the enablement or disablement of the save button on it’s colour (and possibl;y different colour in differnet browsers) then that is not an accurate test - that is merely CSS styling which different browsers treat differently.
And no - I do not think many people have thought this a problem and not spoken up. The plugin has a large number of active users which s very rewarding.
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3:31 am 7 Jan 2008
| Patrick
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Andy,
Well, you were right. It all works fine. Just got hung up with needing to click out of the math box to enable the "Save New Post" button (only in Firefox). Since I got fooled, is there a way you could post a bit of code to modify so that it would not require the cursor to be out of the math field to Save? It’s a little thing, but for some reason I had the habit of typing all the text fields first, then completing the math last - thereby creating the confusion. Let me know if this is possible.
Finally, after working with your plugin all day, I am extremely impressed at its intelligent/professional design, ready-to-go functionality and ease of administration. You are a great credit to the WP community. Kudos Andy!!
Patrick
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It really does work exactly the same way in other browsers. The difference is the way that browsers ‘render’ controls and interpret control css styling.
The problem with keeping the Save button enabled is that if the user writes their post but doesn’t fill in the math field (or gets ther answer wrong), then the post is not saved but the page is refreshed. This was an attempt to stop this from happening. You can hack the code (in sf-forms.php) to remove the disablement but it can be frustrating for a user.
I am hoping, although this is neither definite or coded yet, to change this in V3, to check more dynamically that things are OK prior to saving and the risk of losing the post.
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