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sf 1.4 and some display/template issues with wpmu

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8:22 pm
6 Feb 2007


ovizii

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hello Andy,


just wanted to show you one forum implementation in a subblog using wpmu. one of my "betatesters" has created a forum but to me it looks kind of weird.

http://sasha.zice.ro/forum/

 I just wanted to show you this, you can barely read this part:

Topics Started Last Post Posts
salut  

February 6, 2007 - 7:55 pm

by sasha

February 6, 2007 - 7:55 pm

by sasha

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click on his only test post, and se for yourself. Would this be an issue with the template? Do you think with your current idea of adding skinning/modding to the forum we could overcome such problems? 

11:17 pm
6 Feb 2007


Yellow Swordfish

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Peterborough, England

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Yes… there are some truly hideous CSS clashes here aren't there. Looks like it needs quite a lot of work to find them all.

One thing I have been doing some work on is attempting to define more basic css directives to override the theme settings within the forum. It's not easy as so many theme authors create very sloppy non-directed CSS rules that ripple down through everything but I am giving it a go. I've also nearly finished a 'black' skin that may help your friend a little!

It's mainly the theme CSS - in fact it almost always is the theme CSS that is the problem. It can be tackled in two ways… put the CSS right or - modify the page template so that it uses the bare minimum. The problem there is that many users can't or won't do this and I can understand that.

I've just solved a problem another user was having with the topic page displaying off to the right. In that case the author had specified a fieldset clause in the CSS fairly non-directed. The odd thing is that the templates never use a fieldset. Looks more like it was hacked from another theme and never cleaned up and that's the sort of problem that is rife out there.

I will do as much as I can to target base clauses. How much of an effect it will have I'm not sure. 

11:56 am
7 Feb 2007


ovizii

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posts 114

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thx for clarirfying that,

 I do work and will do some more work on the themes, but as this is a wpmu install with LOTS of themes, all available on the net and this being just a wpmu testbed you can imagine what a lot of work there is to do: test and modify plugins, same for themes, keep wpmu updated so I had not put much work into gettign the themes right, but I will.

I want to at least test them all for compliances to standards, maybe check css too, but that will have to wait a bit.

Lets see how your theming work progresses :-) 

12:35 pm
7 Feb 2007


Yellow Swordfish

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Peterborough, England

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I have managed to catch quite a lot of problems just by using the WP default theme which has been a great help. By using the thin columned default and seeing the effect that the theme CSS has on it I have been able to define quite a few new overirdes so hopefully things will improve. But it will be impossible to catch them all sadly.

11:10 am
11 Feb 2007


ovizii

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posts 114

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another display issue, possibly related is that when you try to reply to a post, you can test it here: http://zice.ro/forum/, the editor bars, which contain the formatting are wider than the forum itself?

they go into the sidebar…

can you hhave a look why that happens? you can just click reply on a post and you'll instantly see what I mean (using FF 2, using IE 6 the text box gets bigger too, so it does not look as bad as in FF) 

12:03 pm
11 Feb 2007


Yellow Swordfish

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Peterborough, England

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You're using a really early 'beta' version of 1.4 there. That editor was replaced by TinyMCE in the final release which should resolve your problem.

12:16 pm
11 Feb 2007


ovizii

Member

posts 114

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please help!

I deleted the old versions file, downloaded the newest one, copied into folder, went to admin panel, saved options, and now I can't access the foru many longer. when I click on a subforum I jsut get back to the forum main page!? 

12:30 pm
11 Feb 2007


Yellow Swordfish

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Peterborough, England

posts 5252

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Did you copy everythng in? Looks like there may be something missing although I would expect errors under those circumstances.

Did you try updating your permalinks? The links are coming up with a valid url so I am not sure why this should happen. Especially as you were able to navigate before.

It's odd - even pasting the correct url into the address bar redirects back to the main page… WP seems to be re-directing so I suspect permalinks.

12:37 pm
11 Feb 2007


ovizii

Member

posts 114

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yes, I deleted everything inside the simple-forum fodler, copied everything fro mthe new version in, changed ownership as required, saved forum options, just resaved permalinks too - still no go…


btw. I also changed the line dealing with SFUSERS so that it points wo wp_users, but that did also work with the last version…

do you have another beta handy I could try?


edit: just tried if it works on subblogs, its the same problem. 

12:56 pm
11 Feb 2007


Yellow Swordfish

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Peterborough, England

posts 5252

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You having the worst kind of luck!

I will email you the beta of 1.5 which is what I am using on this site. I can't think that it will be different but you never know… 

The WordPress 2.1 version if I recall correctly 

12:59 pm
11 Feb 2007


ovizii

Member

posts 114

11

right, I need 2.1 version as its on wpmu :-) thx.

###edit###

for upgrading I guess I should always completely delete the old versions right? 

1:10 pm
11 Feb 2007


ovizii

Member

posts 114

12

I had the same problems with the new beta, but I found the culprit: I had installed another plugin i nthe meantime: http://fucoder.com/code/permalink-redirect/ which is afecting how wordpress treats links with or without trailing slashes…


I thought it would be useful, but have deactivated it now :-( thx. for the support. 

1:12 pm
11 Feb 2007


Yellow Swordfish

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Peterborough, England

posts 5252

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Ah good! I'll take a look at that…

Which I have now done. Yes. SF wont like this! It spawns it's own URL's….




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