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SPF Incompatable with WPMU 1.5.1

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3:33 pm
7 Jul 2008


-Radio-

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Florida - USA

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Given all of the buzz around the WPMU forums for 1.5.1 and the daily builds and updates (Doncha is working his busy lil butt off) we tried , yet again, to test SPF on an existing build of wpmu 1.5.1…

It crashed…

Here is the postmortem…

INSTALLATION:

After several failed attempts to run the installer script with our standard suite of plugins installed and activated, we figured out that all other plugins must be disabled when performing this opperation…. The result, 12 different members catagories and 24 different permissions settings by the time we had a successful install complete and usher us to the management page.

SETUP:

As you can guess, with so many member categories and permission settings, setting up our first Groups and Forums was a bit of a nightmare.

The first forums were completely inaccessible by any of our users, because they were all in the wrong members groups.

Unfortunately, though you can CREATE members groups in the SPF back end, you can NOT in fact UN-create, or delete them. (Andy, I think this is a small oversight that should be corrected.) We actually had to resort to completely uninstalling SPF using the uninstall option in the tools menu before re-installing (with all other plugins off still)

Once this was completed, installation and setup performed correctly as expected.

USAGE:

Once we were set with groups, forums, users all working properly, we noticed 22 comments in the moderation list, all of them SPAM. (HOW DO THE SPAM BOTS FIND US SO QUICKLY?)

We went back to the plugin menu and activated our anti-spam and poof… our dashboard disappears, COMPLETELY.

Manual Navigation using typed urls for back end pages is not for the mild mannered or the weak hearted. You will be sputtering obscenities within 5 minutes and continue on for several hours afterwards.

Some Dashboard Pages only half appeared, the Manage tab from the dashboard only displayed what blog we were in, and the plugin page stopped loading before any plugins were actually displayed, let alone giving you the opportunity to activate or deactivate any of them.

Here is the list of plugins that are still compatible with SPF in WPMU:

Lightbox 2
AutoLightbox

THATS IT!

Activating ANY OTHER plugin damaged, to one degree or another, the wpmu 1.5.1 backend making some or all functions inaccessible or inoperable. WP-Custom AntiSPAM: FAILED, Akismet anti-spam: FAILED, Hello Dolly; FAILED (WHO CONFLICTS WITH Hello Dolly?!?)

I make specific note, that ALL of the plugins we tested worked perfectly fine in WPMU 1.3.3 with SPF, and to verify this we updated to the current SPF 3.1.3 beta 1 on an existing wpmu 1.3.3 install with absolutely no problems.

Does this mean that SPF is poorly written? Absolutely NOT! Here is why.

We also tested the same setup with:

rs-discus Forum - Same Symptoms; Same Failure
xd-forums - Would Not Activate
bbPress integration plugins - Same Symptoms; Same Failures.

The problem uniquely lies within WPMU 1.5.1 and the methods applied in the backend. I am not sure what exactly has happened here, but something is different… as of this writing, SPF is NOT compatible with wpmu 1.5.1.

5:04 pm
7 Jul 2008


Yellow Swordfish

Admin

Peterborough, England

posts 4630

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Thanks Radio. Did you talk to Doncha?

Point taken on the user groups (same with permissions). I'll log it for review and action.

8:02 pm
7 Jul 2008


-Radio-

Moderator

Florida - USA

posts 481

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Doncha recommended taking a look at plugins in the mu-plugins folder, specifically there may be some legacy conflicts there that only manifest when coupled when proper plugins in the plugins folder are activated.

He specifically sited the conflict with Hello Dolly as the indicator that something else was going on.

He further stated that 1.5.1 is a full port of the 2.5.1 core for WP so there should be no conflicts with one, without the conflict appearing in the other.

I'm digging deeper as we speak. I will note that in most cases it appears as though the MU portion of the WPMU system is where most errors in my logs are coming from. WPMU admins will note that this system has been in need of an overhaul for some time.

8:28 pm
7 Jul 2008


Yellow Swordfish

Admin

Peterborough, England

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Look forward to hearing if you discover anything else

3:56 am
8 Jul 2008


-Radio-

Moderator

Florida - USA

posts 481

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alright… it appears that we have, in fact, stumbled upon a collosal problem in 1.5.1…

Other issues arising from outdated code hiding deep in the core are becoming evident as we look into failures with xmlrpc.php among others…

This *IS* infact a failure in 1.5.1 and if it can be fixed it will also require the patch being made available on the wpmu forums as well…

4:03 am
8 Jul 2008


-Radio-

Moderator

Florida - USA

posts 481

6

Not able to reply to the trac msgs, in trac, but as to the issue of not being able to delete user groups once created; Each user group had an ID number, all were locked, if only 1, 2, and 3 were locked the problem would have been easily solved.

Even if ony #1 was locked (the first guest group) the solution would have been easier than a complete uninstall/reinstall.


8:47 am
8 Jul 2008


Yellow Swordfish

Admin

Peterborough, England

posts 4630

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I'll keep a watch on the MU site for info…

What happens when you try and respond on Trac?



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