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11:57 pm
1 Aug 2008
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ponobill
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I swear I searched for an answer before asking!
I have a e-magazine based on wordpress that has a lot of existing posts and pages. I would like edit many of them (in particular some of the pages) and add a link to a forum topic to enable discussion. For example, there are reviews of surfboards that would benefit from open discussion in the forum. I understand more or less how the links work and the source of the button that gets planted in the post when you start a new topic and use the “create linked post” button. I could add the custom field Forumlink and a value like 2@5 if I understood the logic of this nomenclature. An explanation of how to determine this pointer value for forum topics would solve half the problem.
For the second half, I'd like the link to work the other way. Certainly I could just create a link in the forum topic pointing back to the post or page, but I'd like it to look like the button that is created if you use the “create linked post” feature. Is there a way?
What would be REALLY cool is a button in the wordpress post and page visual editor that would create a linked topic in the same manner that the Forum editor creates a linked post.
Finally, My forum installation suffered from being moved to another host, and needed it's database cleaned up to function. In the process of pushing all the buttons I could find I pushed the anti-spam, clean up your users button. I assumed this would only affect users who accessed the forum–I didn't realize my blog users were in jeopardy. Foolish I know, and there are plenty of warnings not to push that button without calm reflection, but you might explicitly state that doing so will cast your users out of paradise.
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12:03 am
2 Aug 2008
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ponobill
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Well, I was scratching around and found that part of my wish is already granted–that posts DO have a link to forum button. But what about pages?
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12:11 am
2 Aug 2008
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Mr Papa
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no, it doesnt currently work on pages… dont think we have had that request before, but I can see the logic… I will add it to our trac system as a feature request for consideration…
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Ok - it is more than just one line but I'll get it done as it also makes sense.
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8:30 pm
17 Aug 2008
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ponobill
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I can't find this issue in the trac system, any idea on timing? I can do a workaround, but it would be nicer if current integration worked with pages.
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8:40 pm
17 Aug 2008
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Mr Papa
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Here is the trac ticket on it… Currently in testing and will make it into 3.2…
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Note that might end up only being for WP 2.5 and above…
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12:12 am
18 Aug 2008
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ponobill
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Cool. I figured out how to do it manually as you can see here: http://www.kenalu.com/forums/showcase-index/amundson-aquaglide/, but it's a PIA. I'll wait for the real deal.
Incidentally, the forum is the third most popular page on my site, with no effort to promote it–all because of the integration between blog posts and the forum. All visits to the forum come from clicks on the blog posts–almost no one selects it from the tab.
The board and paddle review section is the first and second most popular area, and they are pages. I suspect the very day that I implement integration between these pages and the forum that the forum will instantly become the most visited section.
Now i just need to get people to actually do posts in the forum. So far it's all lurkers.
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7:23 pm
18 Aug 2008
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Katie
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ponobill, I see that you found the button, Can you share where it is. I can't find it. Anyone?
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7:34 pm
18 Aug 2008
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Mr Papa
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the button to link posts to forum topics? look in the WP write post page… assuming you have enabled it in SPF
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5:54 pm
22 Aug 2008
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ponobill
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I think Katie is talking about the button on the bottom of the post that takes you to the related forum topic.
Katie, if you create a blog post you'll see at the bottom of the post editing page is the Link To Forum check box to create a related forum post. When you check that and update the post, SP Forum creates a forum topic and puts a button at the bottom of your post that enbles instant navigation to the related forum post. It does this through a custom link called Forumlink. If you look at any post (using Manage a Post) that contains a forum link you'll see this in the custom fields section.
Since Pages don't currently have this very cool capability, I faked it by creating a forum post and making my own custom fields edit to the page I wanted to link to. The hard part is guessing what the parameter (like 2@13) stands for. The first part (2 in the example) is the forum thread number in order of creation, and the second appears to be sequential indicating the topic. Unfortunately it doesn't appear to be the 13th topic in thread 2 but the total number of topics.
So I just created a dummy post with a forum link, noted the number, then created forum topics for the pages I wanted to add links to, and added forumlink fields to the appropriate pages. The forumlink parameter was the topic number and the next number after my dummy post number. A lot of work. Fun to figure out, but I'm just going to wait for these wizards to add the capability to Simple Press.
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The numbers are the topic id and the blog post id…
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Sorry that was wrong! I was not thinking straight! They represent the forum ID and the Topic ID…
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5:14 am
23 Aug 2008
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ponobill
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I've noted a bug, or maybe it's a design flaw. Turns out the reason my forum wasn't getting any posts from readers was because the “Do Math To Save” button was giving users fits. After doing the math you have to either press return (which a lot of web users have a phobia about) or click in the reply space for the “do math to save” button to change to a Save New Post button. People do the math, then start clicking on the button and nothing happens.
I'm willing to do without this spam preventer until that changes–I have less problem with Spam than I do with frustrated users. But I can't see anywhere to turn that off. Is it configurable in some way?
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5:29 am
23 Aug 2008
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Mr Papa
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Its in the permissions… Can bypass spam control…
Frankly, I dont know why users have problems with that math stuff, but they do - you are not the only one to report this… getting on my soapbox, I wouldnt call it a bug or a flaw… but it can be improved…
Happily, I can report that we have improved that aspect in the upcoming V3.2… The save button wont be highlighted until the math is filled in… this should alleviate the users that have gotten lost with the math stuff…
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Additionally the 'save' button will change text and be enabled while the cursor is still in the math box so no need to click outside.
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9:35 am
23 Aug 2008
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Mr Papa
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Andy ought to be smiling here… he kicked some butt to get that one working right 
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8:47 pm
23 Aug 2008
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ponobill
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The save button changing as soon as the math is done is the big issue IMHO. Anytime users have to experiment to get an action to take place they'll get it wrong 99 percent of the time.
I did find where to turn it off, and it's off for registered users on my forum now. Thanks.
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8:49 pm
23 Aug 2008
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ponobill
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Very much looking forward to 3.2 since it will solve two major problems for me. Any ideas on release date?
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8:55 pm
23 Aug 2008
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Mr Papa
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In our trac system, we have it for end of October, but thats not firm yet… there will be some beta releases before a formal release…
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9:41 pm
27 Aug 2008
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ponobill
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My forum posts and replies have gone up dramatically since I removed the “math required” check. I'll look forward to the new version, I'll have a baseline to compare results of re-applying the new anti-spam.
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